As soon as you do this with a pair of carbon skis you'll understand immediately what "stiff" means a lot of carbon skis feel like you could snap them this way. Push forward with your lower hand and pull back slightly with the upper hand. If you can hold these skis in your hands before you buy them, I think a really useful skill is to be able to test the ski flex with your hands: stand the ski on end and grab the top of the shovel with one hand, and put the other a bit below the shovel. They're the stiffest pair of skis I've ever been on, and I felt every damn ripple in the snow on the way down.Įdit: for context, I was riding them on fairly mellow stuff flowy and fun but not a lot of fresh snow. I definitely want to echo /u/Different-Syrup9712 here: I rode Helio Carbons for three days a few years ago and hated them. Pairing this ski with a hybrid binding doesn't really make any sense IMO. If you do buy this ski, please consider putting a fairly light touring binding on it. You can pretty often find skis for $500 or close that you will like better. Your friends might tease you a little or a lot depending how mean they are.ģ). Fully carbon skis are already known for being a little snappy and chattery, very short ones will be worse.Ģ). You may not like the way they ski, especially at speed. Now, if you are looking for reasons not to buy, here are some of those:ġ). You have less interest in downhill ski performance than uphill efficiency, so you don't mind skiing on lil shorties forever. You are getting a short, light touring ski which will be great to learn on as an intermediate. You acknowledge that you will likely want a longer, beefier ski for tours where the down is more important than the up.ģ). You are buying a super light, short ski setup that you will use to get better at touring initially, and eventually use as your ultra-light setup for big missions where weight is really important. You know you will eventually resell this ski, but you are willing to lose $150 or so of value when you resell it in a couple of years.Ģ). You are buying a short ski to help you learn. If you are looking for reasons to buy, you can look at this three ways:ġ). Ultimately, though, if you stay interested in BC skiing you will probably want longer skis to have better stability at speed and more purchase on firm snow. Weight went up a couple ounces per ski (new weights listed on Specs tab).That is a pretty small ski for you, but as an intermediate it might actually be kinda nice for a while.
#BLACK DIAMOND HELIO CARBON 104 UPDATE#
Update 2018/19: Along with a graphics update the ski had its layup tweaked for a bit more dampening.
5mm thick ABS sidewalls are beveled to increase edge hold while protecting from edge damage.Pre-preg carbon fiber around a balsa flax wood core is torsionally stiff with a progressive flex.Sidewall Dampening System integrates rubber behind the contact point to reduce chatter.Of course, with a generous underfoot width, the 95mm version is pretty fun in powder too. The result is a ski you can trust to ski big lines in variable conditions. BD designed the skis to have technical chops but not be too demanding. As importantly, the Helios are easy to ski with a modern shape and rockered tip.
#BLACK DIAMOND HELIO CARBON 104 FULL#
The torsional stiffness and progressive flex come from a carbon fiber wrap around a balsa flax core, protected by a full ABS sidewall. Noticeably more damp than BD’s prior carbon skis, the Helios have a layer of rubber in the sidewall near your heel to reduce vibration. The Helio construction is Black Diamond’s next step in carbon-fiber evolution.
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